To Bypass a Hydrant or Not?

You are dispatched to a working condo fire with 6 confirmed trapped. Trapped person is 911 caller stating that fire is blocking her families exit and they are trapped on the 2nd floor. You will be first due and second in engine is 6 minutes out. A hydrant is 800 ft away. As the first due engine are you bypassing the hydrant for rescue? Wrapping the plug? Full connection? Passing to next due engine? State your actions and why?



  • slackjawedyokel says:

    quick wrap of the plug

  • Rob says:

    Now this is from a rookie, so someone correct me if I’m wrong, but wouldn’t you bypass the hydrant for rescue and pass this to the next due engine, since preservation of life is paramount? The first truck should get a ladder up to a window where the family is trapped and start getting them down. Once the family is secure, attention can be turned to fighting the fire with available water on the truck until the next due truck grabs the hydrant.

  • mark says:

    How big is “my’ crew?

    Second engine is 6 minutes out, but is there a truck or squad that is closer?

    Once I have the answers, I’ll give my opinion

  • Jack says:

    Never pass a hydrant…If you arrive on scene and a Rescue is obvious, make the grab if not proceed with your Engine Company Functions. Once we get water on the fire, things get much better! Any Rescues in the area of fire attack can be made as to that is where our main life threat would be. Too many times we are faced with an “Entrapment” call and we loose focus of the basics.

  • Ideally I’d like to use the tank (500 gal.) for partial knockdown of fire to allow egress of trapped occ’s. If not feasible, go with another access point (i.e., ground ladder via opposite side of apt.) and dump the deck gun on it. My plan would be something like this:

    With my standard crew of three (Cap, DE, and FF) and info. given, we’re throwing a quick wrap on the hydrant, and laying in (this way, at least the line’s laid).

    On approach, attempt to quickly size-up and narrow down location of trapped occ’s, while FF stretches for an attempt at knocking down fire blocking victim egress (ideally) and DE throws a quick ladder if feasible/indicated (after handline charged).

    Second-in in my district will be a quint with same staffing, and will proceed in and feed tank to my engine and deploy aerial (DE). Crew will deploy second handline and to help facilitate victim egress or throw ladders, whichever plan is currently under way.

    Third-in will establish continuous water (dress, open, and relay from hydrant). Cap and FF will proceed in with tools to assist where needed.

    Nate Quartier
    E-93 “B”
    Ormond Beach FD

  • Rob,

    You’re thinking is along the right lines, but a ladder might not be the best option for getting them out. Taking 6 occupants out via ground ladder is going to be a bigger job and take longer than one might think.

    Life safety IS paramount, but remember the saying that “a well-placed hoseline saves more lives than any other tactic on the firegorund.”

    Granted, the fire in the pic isn’t likely to be put out with tank water, but you may be able to hit it hard and fast with your tank water in an effort to get them out via normal egress.

    Just food for thought. Nice to see newer FFs getting involved and engaged on sites like this.

    Also, kudos to the brothers behind this site. I just found it via a link from another site and am glad I found it (wish I had sooner)! Good, quick posts/tips to get you thinking (and it’s cool to see something like this coming out of my neck of the woods.)

    Nate Quartier
    E-93 “B”

  • Billy Bob says:

    Our SOG is to go directly in and start rescue. The next engine in will catch the hydrant and lay the line.

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