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Garage fire time folks. You are arriving first due to a reported unoccupied dwelling fire. At arrival this is what you see. Let’s see some garage fire tactics today…..

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  • johnny trujillo says:

    protect your serounding structuers and exposuers go on a defensive atack call for aditional resorses

  • Detlef Maushake says:

    Hi, let`s give it some german firefighting too this time and see how you like it from across the ocean :-) (IŽd be responding with Engine 2-48-1 (4 persons), Truck 2-30-1 (2 people) and Medic 2-83-1 (2 PM/FF) from my station.)

    Initial report would be: Engine 2-48-1 on scene (ADRESS) at a single store residential building with an attached garage, garage is fully involved with fire extending in the main structure. Smoke showing from the attic. 2-48-1 will be Garage IC starting exposure protection. Strike a second alarm for this adress, working fire.

    => Pull the engine past the building so the Truck can move up front for possible roof control
    => Have my crew pull a 2 1/2 inch line for knock down and exposure protection on D side
    => Have my Truck prepare for VES as soon as we get a RIT team established (2nd in Truck)
    => Have my Medic crew hook us up to the hydrant and prepare the Blower at the front door

    => 2nd in Engine will make entry and try to get the fire out of the structure with at least an 1 3/4 line supported by the local VFD station with a backup crew and line

    And then see where we move from there….what do you think?
    Thanks for sharing your thoughts with me. Detlef “Mausi” Maushake (Captain Salzgitter FD, Station 2)

  • Rick says:

    With everyone getting there at the same time, we would do the following.

    1. Lt. gives size up and intital report and takes command of scene, requesting 2nd Alarm (skipping Working Fire) This brings us 2 engines and 1 Ladder to the scene, and provides for 2 more engines for coverage.

    2. Eng. stops at the hydrant and leaves one man at the hydrant and pulls past the house, leaving the front for the ladder.

    3. Remaining Eng crew stretches 2 1/2 for knockdown of Garage fire. Hydrant man assists Eng. Co

    4. Ladder and Medic crews work together and proceed to stretch 1 3/4 line into the structure and proceed with search and rescue, then proceed to extingish the fire in an interior attack, and vent.

    5. 2nd Alarm Ladder would provide vertical vent on the roof, and secure utilities. 2nd Alarm Engine crew stretch 1 3/4 line into the structure, and the other 2nd Alarm Engine crew is the RIT team.

    We do not use a blower at a fire scene until all fire is extingished, it is mostly used for the removal of smoke.

    • Detlef Maushake says:

      Hi thanks for the feedback, 2nd alarm will bring us 3 more engines and a BC (2 Trucks are normal response with us for a structure fire).

      We wouldn`t stretch anything inside unless we have a RIT Team available as we are bound to the 2in-2out rule for interior attack nless we have people trapped which is not the case in this fire.

      The blower is used more often but this depends on the different building codes and building types in germany compared to the US :-) so my fault if we look at the wood frame construction home in the picture.

      But its always nice to share ideas :-)

  • Timothy Bullard says:

    VFD with no Truck. Residential area in town so pull the hydrant with us. Onscene report and 360 shows fire has the garage and the attic is in some danger, exterior attack is called and incoming members advised of the hydrant and need for water. With two on the engine, Engineer pull one 2 1/2 from the crosslay to the garage front, then charge it. Firefighter pull second 2 1/2 to the C/C corner with a 50′bundle. Firefighter hits the garage with tank water in a pin and hit pose, concentrating the onboard 1000 gallon capacity to the ceiling and house side to remove heat and delay fire progression to the attic and kitchen. Engineer should be making his LDH connection and preparing for water. Next in should leave one member with the hydrant and charge when all is ready. More help will continue to extinguish the garage and extend smaller lines into the front door to confirm there is no occupancy and no extension. The second 2 1/2 is if little help arrives before extension into the attic, but the hydrant is secured.

  • Craig Zale says:

    Lot’s of good input, Let’ get a 360 done also. Need a primary search. Other wise keep fire fighter saftey at the for front of this job.

  • Michael Sparks says:

    -establish command
    -secure water source
    -voice brief incident report (describe working fire, structure types and needs)
    -conduct 360 degree incident/scene safety/exposure survey
    -voice conditions/actions/needs (call for additional resources)
    -establish the STRATEGY
    -task a safety officer
    -establish IRIT
    -advance pre-connect 65 mm hose line to fire and apply water as initial fire attack.
    -set up positive pressure fan at front door of dwelling
    -advance pre-connect 44 mm hose line into dwelling and conduct a primary search
    -set up positive pressure fan at front door of dwelling
    -set up a 44 mm hose line to protect exposure on right side of involved structure
    -advance pre-connect 44 mm hose line into dwelling on the right and conduct a primary search
    -search garage when access is possible
    -reassess situation, alter strategy, re-deploy resources as required.

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